Chapter 5 post

How does the Haifa day-care experiment relate to the actions of– and on– the web? 

Are you part of any “sharing cultures” that are facilitated by– or even exist completely on– the web?
What are the problems Shirky proposes, whether you agree with him or not, with the “brain surgery” argument?

In regards to the experiment-I immediately, without reading the whole page, knew what the outcome would be. I have done exactly what those parents did. Once I had to pay late fees I thought that the extra 20 dollars for the day was worth the chance to have a half an hour to run to the store without kids. I am not real proud of myself, but it is the truth. The adding of the fee was like an ok to take advantage-after all they got paid. This book sure has made me rethink some things, lol. I am not too sure of its relation to actions on the “web” other that it seems like it is a whole lot easier to be bold about any given subject and to clash with others online where you are pretty anonymous. If I put it in the context of cost, clarity and community though it makes a bit more sense to me. When the parents had to pay for lateness (cost) the caregivers role changed (community).

I loved the section of the chapter about the Invisible College. I don’t believe it is stated in the chapter outright-but I think he was talking about the birth of the scientific method, which is truly interesting.

I am part of a few sharing cultures that are totally online. I mentioned them in the previous posts.

I am not sure that I am in agreement with Shirky on the brain surgery argument. While I certainly won’t be engaging a prostitute any time soon, I still trust professionals over amateurs most times. Are all professionals worth their salt, no, but most amateurs are just that. The idea that sometimes having someone do something for you as an amateur is better than having done by a professional works in some areas (like personal life), but I still wouldn’t want an amateur operating on my brain.


Chapter 4 Blog

 I would like to add a couple of things that I forgot to add to chapter 3’s Motive post. I enjoy putting myself out there. I especially enjoy writing-though I don’t do so much now. I am a bit of a comedian and my sense of humor can be a bit raunchy (see my facebook notes lol)-but I am one of those people that will throw up if I have to do public speaking of any type. The fact that I would probably rather have my teeth ripped out and salt packed in the wounds then to speak in public is going to make next semesters Oral Communication class really trying! So part of my motivation is to get out there a bit, without actually getting out there.

Chapter 4:
I have to comment on theory-induced blindness! I have been saying this for years and didn’t know it had a name! People do this all the time! Religious leaders like the one I blogged about in India and people like the ones who are spewing hate (Westbourough comes to mind) all exhibit this behaivor. I also have to admit that I no longer remember most of my friends phone numbers without my phone-but I can still remember my first husbands social security number and we haven’t been married in nearly 20 years.
A big motivation, in my opinion, is that we are such an “instant gratification” society. Communication via social networks or email can be much quicker than the regular postal system. That is a powerful draw. You don’t have to wait a week to hear back from a friend. It never really occurred to me to wonder why people spend time on things like email or twitter for that reason. The time that we used to spend writing letters and going to the post office is email and twitter time now.
I agree with Shirky about the real difference between generations. My grandparent’s generation lived through the great depression-they were the definition of a society that learned to live with less. My parents were baby boomers and they had the boom after the war to produce me-the generation of gimme! (Ha Ha) We had more so we did less. I am in a unique position to have children born far apart. My older kids are in their early 20’s and my younger two are under 10. My older kids are totally different in their motivations to do things-they have little in the way of patience. My younger kids are all about NOW. It is very apparent that having more to choose from (so to speak) is a deciding factor in how a generation behaves. Also, I was an 18 year-old single mom with my first child and I was living hand to mouth for the most part. My oldest daughter is far more frugal and patient than my younger kids who have their father and mom at home and a stable home. My younger kids have never gone hungry, never been evicted from their home and never had to deal with the evil stepfather. Their personalities are far different then my older two who have experienced all that and more.


Chapter 3 Blog

There are many communities on the net that have been built around a shared interest, whether that interest be in a person (such as the Grobanites) or a work or kind of art (such as fan fiction sites), or some kind of entertainment (witness still very active communities built around long-cancelled television shows like Lost and Star Trek). Are you part of– or have you been close to anyone who has been part of– any such communities? What were your/their motives? How do these relate to the motives explored by Shirky, such as feedback loops and intrinsic motivation?

I sat down and thought about this prompt and I am really embarrassed by what I have to say next.
My name is Bobbie and I am an addict. I am addicted to all things Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. I belong to a few sites concerning the game and I am responsible for spreading the addiction to others. In fact I am a pusher, I have transferred my addiction to my kids and friends. I also lobbied for both Farscape and Firefly to stay on tv as well as The Dresden files (hence my addiction to Jim Butcher). I check into the Tolkien sites and I check in with my friends on my FAVORITE bands site ( I 
That being said I am also part of the Laurell K Hamilton fan club, as well as JR Ward, Jim Butcher and a few other authors. Our community is very active in all these groups. My motives? Boredom. There, I said it. I am a mom of 4 with two under 10 at home and one is special needs. I escape into these communities and games as a way of trying to talk to adults. I need to talk to someone who is as nerdy as I am. Thanks to this class I found the Dr. Who group…yay! lol. I don’t always have time to visit all of them, but I do enjoy them. 
I think all of us on these sites are there because we LOVE our little addictions. I guess that would be the intrinsic motivation! I enjoy talking to people who know who Bob is and why Harry Dresden is the greatest character EVER! I love telling people about my fave characters and having them tell me about theirs. That feedback is so much fun!